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  1. Heather says

    Hi again Emily,
    Rereading my post it does sound complicated-I guess I should have just wrote my question which is, in your opinion and from your experience helping other parents is it wise to move or change nap times in order to get 2 naps if you know it isn’t time to transition them yet (they’re only 11 mos). I’ve been moving nap time back and forth by 15-30 in order to get 2 naps in and to make sure they are tired enough. Is that recommended?
    The girls do well sleeping through the night since 4 1/2 months, just getting up a little early lately…
    Thanks for your help.

  2. Emily DeJeu says

    @ Katie — I’m no sleep consultant, but I’d suggest trying one nap, instead of 2. The average age for making the 2-to-1 nap transition is 15-18 months. That would cut down on his naptime sleep a bit, and would move his nap to the middle of the day, which would mean he’d have more awake time between his nap and bedtime. Those factors could combine to make his nighttime sleep longer.

    You can read more about nap transitions here: https://www.babysleepsite.com/baby-naps-2/how-to-manage-baby-toddler-nap-transitions/

    Thanks for commenting, Katie! 🙂 (And great name, by the way — it’s my daughter’s! One of my favorites.)

  3. Emily DeJeu says

    @ Heather — you’ve got a lot of variables here (twins, tricky naps, early rising, problems falling asleep at bedtime), and since I’m not a trained sleep consultant, I can’t provide a solution that’ll fix all of them. I can only offer very general guidance.

    My recommendation would be to check our our consulting services (https://www.babysleepsite.com/baby-toddler-sleep-consulting-services/) and see which of those packages would suit you best. As a member, you receive 20% off the cost of any consultation. Truly, if you want an outside opinion, and someone to walk you through the steps you’ll need to take to get your twins sleeping better, this is the route to go.

    Thanks for commenting, Heather! And keep us posted on how things progress.

  4. Katie says

    I read this article hoping it would help me with my 15-month-old son. He naps well, usually 1.5-2 hours in the morning and afternoon. He goes to bed fine around 8 (or a little earlier), but he’s been waking super early – around 5:30, sometimes even earlier. Are his naps too long for a toddler his age? Or is he going to bed too late? He wakes up sleepy, too, so I know he could use more nighttime sleep. What needs to change so that he naturally sleeps later in the mornings? Thanks!

  5. Heather says

    Hi,
    I am a member of the baby sleep site and have read all the articles on baby sleep and seem to be getting more confused and frustrated the more I read…I think I need an outsider to look in and maybe see what I am missing…
    Naps were going pretty well for my twin 11 month olds (wake up at about 6:30, nap [email protected]:30/9:45 (1 hr, 10min), nap 2 at 1:30/2-3:330), then they were taking too long to fall asleep and crying and protesting so I assumed after much researching that they needed more awake time & maybe they were starting to transition to 1 nap, so I moved naptime by 15 mins for a few days until I was putting them down at 9:50/10 instead of 9:20/9:30. The same thing was happening with their afternoon naps, it went from 1:30, to 2, to 2:15, to 2:45, til I was putting them down as late as 3 (they’d sleep-2:45/3-4/4:15), then moving bedtime a little later so I was getting 2 naps in.
    So one of my questions is; are you supposed to or should you do that? Move naptimes so they are at least getting 2-1 hr naps or should you leave them alone and if they are “skipping one” or not settling down for one without much protest should I have cut that out and moved their pm nap up? I know all babies are different and they are SO many variables (sleep regression, learning a new skill, hunger, transitioning to one nap etc..) I just want to know how to help my kids. Their nighttime sleep is tricky now too! If they wake too early in the am is it because bedtime was too early or too late? (they used to go down at 6:40 without a problem, now I put them down closer to 7) It’s hard to tell if they are over or under tired! Or are they just adjusting-I know it says it takes 1-2 weeks. But what if they are accumulating sleep debt in the meantime (last night one twin only got 101/2 hrs of sleep (norm is 11-11 ½) 7:30 when she finally settled even though I put her down at 7 until 5:50am)? HELP please! Not sure what to do?!?!

  6. Emily DeJeu says

    @ Helen — I wouldn’t say you’ve done anything wrong. It’s not uncommon for a baby who naps well to have trouble sleeping at nice (and vice versa.) Naptime and nighttime sleep are very different, and are actually controlled by different parts of the brain.

    It could simply be that she’s waking from habit (that’s what it sounds like to me.) If this is the case, then it probably has little to do with her naps and more to do with her learned sleep behaviors.

    Have you checked out our free guide yet? (https://www.babysleepsite.com/baby-sleep-through-night-free-ebook/) That’s a good place to start, if you need ideas about how to encourage your baby to sleep better at night. We have paid e-books too, and consulting services, but most people like to begin with the free guide.

    Thanks for commenting, Helen! And keep us posted on what happens 🙂

  7. Helen says

    Interesting, Im having the exact same problem with my 6.5 month old. Settles beautifully during the day & usually has 2 x 1.5 hour naps per day. However, at night won’t settle without shushing / patting. Though I try to leave the room before she falls asleep.

    She is then waking every 2 hours at night. I really don’t understand what the difference is as she has a routine we’ve been following since she was six weeks – bath, massage, BF, stories, bed – asleep 7/7.30. She’s waking for comfort & the only way to settle her is to latch her on, even tho she’s not hungry enough to nurse. All these night problems started after I managed to sort her day sleeps out. I thought good day sleeps. = good night sleeps so Im confused about where I’ve gone wrong…

  8. Emily DeJeu says

    @ Laura — sounds like you’ve got your son’s sleep needs figured out! Good for you! It can take some time (and some trial and error) to arrive at those kinds of insights.

    Thanks for commenting, Laura!

  9. Emily DeJeu says

    @ Kelly — I’m not a trained sleep consultant, but it sounds to me like your son’s nap probably isn’t too long. 1 – 2.5 hours is very, very reasonable for a toddler who’s 2 years & 3 months.

    This could just be a phase. Is this bedtime resistance fairly new? You may want to check out this article for more insights into some of the sleep issues that tend to arise around the 2 year mark: https://www.babysleepsite.com/toddlers/5-things-about-2-year-old-toddler-sleep/

    Of course, you could be absolutely right, and his nap could be the thing that’s making bedtime go haywire. You could always try waking him early from his nap (when it starts to get too long) and see what that does to bedtime.

    Keep us posted on what happens, Kelly! And thanks for commenting. 🙂

    @ Becky — thank you so much for this insightful tip! Very, very useful to those parents who are struggling with erratic waking. Thanks for commenting, Becky!

  10. Laura says

    Yes, we have to wake my 2 year old up from him nap after an hour and 15 min MAX or he’ll just up tossing and turning in the middle of the night. My husband had a lot of sleep issues as a kid so we’ve been very proactive about our son’s sleep.

    Now…if only my 2 year old would sleep all the night through without wanting us to fix his blanket or find his lion stuffed animal for him several times…sigh ;P