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  1. Cynthia says

    I am a new member with a 4 month old baby. Since birth our son has been dictating when he eats, sleeps and poos. We used to think he was a cat-napper and didn’t need any sleep duirng the day. My problem is trying to stick to a schedule, which I have begun to do, and getting my mother-in-law and nanny to stick to it as well. My mother-in-law has 8 other grandchildren and is very easy going with our son. He will feed him to make him go to sleep whenever our son begins to cry. I don’t want to make headway during the weekend only to have it ruined by the other care givers. Also, I have gone through the guilt phase of letting him cry for ten minutes and then putting the pacifier in a few times. My mommy micro chip cringes every time. He does sleep 30 min. to an hour, but the worse part is deciding if I should wake him to feed him to stick to his schedule, especially after all we go through to put him to sleep in the first place. Wow. A lot of info as you can see… new member. 🙂

    • Nicole says

      @Cynthia At 4 months, schedules are hit and miss, so no, I would not wake him to stick to a feeding schedule. At this age it’s best to keep wake times short and nap often. 30 minutes to an hour is normal at this age as short naps are common up through 6 months old. It sounds like you’re doing a great job, mommy!

  2. Luitha says

    Hi there! I was sooooo grateful to find your website, and especially this article….

    My 12 week old son Forrest is my first baby, and it has been one hell of a ride. After about 5 weeks he started having almost daily spans of 12 to 15 hours awake with only occasional 20 minute naps. I was also struggling with post-natal depression (not helped by sleep deprivation and frustration!), and his obvious unhappiness made me feel even more guilty, not helped by the advice from articles and health visitors that he would sleep when he needed to and that to try to sleep train him would be in some way damaging to him.

    What I couldn’t get anyone to realise was that those 12 – 15 hours of awake times were with rocking, a pacifier, cuddling, napping together, nap-nursing, patting, singing, pacing, etc….he just wouldn’t sleep properly. He had gone from being a happy, alert little baby who had put on weight consistently to being a miserable, whining little goblin…and the sleeplessness even began to affect his health when he became too tired to feed properly – fussing constantly, dropping off to sleep after 5 minutes, only to wake again 5 minutes later, wanting to feed like that for 3 hours straight, and his weight gain dropping to only 2 oz at week 6.

    We spoke to health visitors, breast feeding counsellors and our doctor, all of whom told us it was just colic and we’d have to just get through it – not what you want to hear when you’re depressed!

    Fortunately, my mum bought us a baby book where I happened to read that young babies can’t stay awake for longer than 2 hours without becoming over tired….and that they need regular naps during the day as well as sleep at night. Something clicked in our heads! He was tired – really, really tired.

    We started giving him a bed time of 7pm (obviously with feeds during the night) after which he was in his cot, in the dark, and the improvement was incredible – he became instantly more manageable. But he still wasn’t napping, so we decided to just put him in his cot when he’d been up for 2 hours and to keep going in and cuddling him every 5 -10 minutes, but not talking to him and keeping the light low. He protested a lot, but after 1 day he was already dropping off to sleep during those nap times and after 3 days he was often falling asleep without any crying at all!

    And what was best was that he was back to being a happy, curious, alert little boy, gaining 6 oz a week and developing and growing even faster!

    We didn’t realise at the time that what we were doing was sleep training him, and I did have to struggle with huge amounts of guilt about what we were doing, but now I can see that making that decision has made such a huge positive difference in all our lives, and he still smiles and giggles and loves to be cuddled by me, even more so because he’s not a grumpy, tired mess :o)

    We’re still working on naps, because any tiny change sends him right back to the start, but I’m feeling more and more confident about my parenting ability and our understanding of his needs and personality is blooming. I’m sure that this experience will make us stronger and more intuitive parents, and has been a great lesson in the importance of boundaries and active parenting.

    Thanks so much for your website, it’s great to find more reassurance, even though we did start at 7 weeks old! It just goes to show that every situation is unique!
    With love, Luitha

    • Nicole says

      @Luitha Thank you for sharing your story! You went through a lot! I’m so glad you found my site and you learned about your son’s sleep needs. My son was the same way that ANY little change in routine or if he became overtired, it would set us back at LEAST a week. We chose very very carefully what was “worth” changing his schedule. My husband’s grandmother’s funeral was on of the rare things we might attend. I’m sure some people thought we were crazy, but we knew what we’d go through for a week or two after something as simple as a family picnic. Now that he’s older, he has outgrown this a lot, so hang in there! 🙂

  3. Jennifer says

    Nicole, I could have written this post myself. I became a believer in sleep training with my older child, but so many people criticized my choice with him that I decided I’d try to go without it for my second child. I wanted to take a “freer” approach to her sleep, by having her co-sleep sometimes, sleep in her sling other times, sleep in a bassinet in my room other times, nap with me in bed…needless to say, this “freer” approach created a monster. I hadn’t wanted to ST again because I felt like it made me an unfeeling mother. But when I finally bit the bullet and did it, what a change! And in a very short amount of time. I now chuckle to myself every time I hear or read about a baby or child who “just won’t sleep”, or a parent who says she would rather be able to come and go as SHE likes to, instead of sticking to a pattern that will benefit her child. I no longer think there is anything “cruel” or “mean” about teaching a child to sleep well, especially since so much of it has nothing to do with CIO whatsoever. My personality really needs structure and routine, and it turns out that’s what both of my children thrive on as well. I joke about it to my husband, but when I decided to ST my second baby, and got the “opportunity” to start keeping a meticulous sleep log again, my heart skipped a beat. ;O)

    • Nicole says

      @Jennifer Thank you for commenting! It is SO true that the #1 key is finding what works for both you and the baby! All babies will be different. It drives me crazy to read some sites that say you shouldn’t have a schedule because it’s not a “baby led” approach, but what if your baby needs a schedule to sleep well? I didn’t understand how anyone could NOT have a schedule with my first, but I do understand it with my second because they are just so different. Everyone just needs to realize that what works for one parent and one baby won’t work for everyone, but it doesn’t mean it’s not the right way for them. I’m glad you had the “opportunity” to keep your log again. 😀

  4. veronica says

    I had such problems with the little one I have. Recently started giving her warm tea in her bottle. For some reason she fell right to sleep…?Now I just have some trouble tossing and turning. Yesterday found this awesome site dealing with living longer and sleeping better:

    http://letslivelonger.blogspot.com/2009/04/sleep-better-you-can-do-it.html

    feeling much better, see ya!

    • Nicole says

      @veronica Thanks for sharing! I had a lot of trouble falling asleep even after my son slept better.

  5. T says

    I was visiting family this past weekend. My 5 month old son has an early bedtime. Every single parent there gave me a hard time about his early bedtime. They said I was too ‘rigid’ and ‘neurotic’. My sister-in-law even suggested that my son wouldn’t succeed in preschool because he’d be unable to ‘transition’ from task to task because I’m so ‘rigid’ with his bedtime and sleep. So, I caved and had him up over an hour past his bedtime. I knew better, but every ‘experienced’ parent there had me doubting my parenting skills. That night and the next few days reminded me why he goes to bed early and why I’m so ‘structured’ – NOT ‘rigid’!

    • Nicole says

      @T I found I had to be “structured” (I like that :)) when my son was a baby and now that he’s gotten older, we still have to be routine and structured, but not as much so. We also learned the hard way why we had to just ignore other people and put our son to bed when he needed it. It set us back a week, minimum, when we’d miss naps or mess up his schedule too much. Sure, we missed some barbecues, but we had to be choosy about what was worth the upset. Thanks for commenting!

  6. Patricia Happy says

    Nicole,
    thank you for the article….unsolicited advice is always outthere….and my family members DO NOT understand why i am so rigid and on schedule w/ my little one, she takes 4 ( 30 ) minute naps and then to bed by 7:30 or 8pm….and sleeps 8 hours straight, then wakes up, eats and goes back to sleep for another 2 hours…..i like to think that it’s because of the schedule naps and bedtime routine…but i have giving up on family members understanding the WHY this is so important….thanks

    • Nicole says

      @Patricia I know what you mean about giving up on explaining to people. It falls on deaf ears a lot of times (not always, thankfully). Children thrive on routine, so it sounds like you’re doing great!

  7. Ana Carolina says

    Just yesterday, my best friend, who is currently struggling with her baby’s lack of sleep, tried to make me feel guilty for teaching my baby how to fall asleep on her own, by saying that babies need to be rocked otherwise they don’t feel loved…I have to admit that for a minute I felt guilty, but then, this morning, when I saw the smile on my baby’s face from having a whole night of good sleep, all that guilt went away.

    In order to compensate the sensation of having my baby fall asleep like an angel in my arms (which I have to admit is wonderful), I am holding her and hugging her more than ever, but not when it’s time for her to go to bed.

    • Nicole says

      @Ana Carolina It’s hard not to feel guilty about many things, not just sleep! That’s our jobs as mothers. 🙂 And, for what it’s worth, I went on to rock both my boys a lot, just not all the way to sleep if I could help it. 😉 After they knew how to sleep, they went down asleep many times, too. I agree that there are many hours in the day for you to hug and kiss them and it’s better not to get in the way of better sleep, if you can help it. Thanks for commenting!

  8. Lainie Rusco says

    Great article! All of it is so true.

    Nicole, when did you (if you have) stop using the sound machine? I feel like if I were to not use it that it would be DEAD quiet in there. Plus it would make it hard to sneak in there without making a noise. But I think it’s just my hangup.

    • Nicole says

      @Lainie We are still using our white noise machines, but we probably don’t need to. I like that it drowns out the house noises, though, like doing the dishes, talking, etc. As I said in my other article, it’s not like I can get my sons to get used to sleeping through noise, so I don’t see it as I’m hindering them in any way. Even if they need these when they are adults, it doesn’t seem any worse than needing a pillow to sleep. It might just make rough nights if the power was out. LOL 🙂

  9. Karen says

    Oh, my goodness…I could have written this post. In fact, I probably have a few times on my blog. My MIL always puts her “advice” in the form of “I just can’t believe…” I just can’t believe that he goes to bed so early and sleeps so long. If you kept him up later, y’know you’d get more sleep. I can’t believe that you still let him take 3 naps, and he actually sleeps through the night.

    Umm, it’s BECAUSE of the 3 naps that he sleeps 12 hours straight at night. When he misses a nap (((shudder))), he’s a frantic mess.

    She’s also convinced that I’m starving him by breastfeeding him and I should get him a “nice, soft mattress”.

    • Nicole says

      @Karen Oh boy! LOL Well, I’m glad your baby is getting some great sleep! You’re doing something right!! 🙂

  10. Cindy says

    Nicole, I get the same unsolicited advice from my mother-in-law- that I should keep my baby up later! It really upsets me when I try so hard with my sleeper who is similar to your older son and then (not knowing anything about my baby at all), she tells my husband that I put my baby to bed too early.

    • Nicole says

      @Cindy It’s hard for other people to understand our challenging sleepers. You know him best and you’re the one who has to deal with the consequences if your baby goes to bed too late and doesn’t sleep well. Hang in there and stick to your guns! Your MIL raised her kid (your husband) and now you get to raise yours. 😀 Of course, sometimes these are difficult issues to deal with, but just know you are not alone.